Jussi wrote:eNZYMe wrote:Jussi wrote:Onko tietoa näkyykö JWH-018 veri- tai kusitestissä esim. kannabiksena?
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Ei todellakaan näy. Testi etsii THC:n aineenvaihduntatuotteita (metaboliittejä). JWH-018 kemikaali on totaalisesti erilainen. Voi olla ihan OK vaihtoehto savuista pitävälle, joka joutuu säännöllisesti testeihin.
Okei, mut tota kusitestiä vielä kun miettii niin THC:han saa sen jonku arvon kohoamaan mistä todetaan että on poltellut ja tästä johtuu myös testin epätarkkuus. Ja jos JWH toimii samalla tavalla kuin THC niin miksi se ei sitä nostaisi
Vai nouseeko tämä arvo jostain muusta aineesta mitä on hampussa?`Vai puhuitko juuri kusitestistä?
Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) is rapidly absorbed by inhalation and the gastrointestinal tract. It is almost completely
metabolized. The predominant metabolite is 9-carboxy-11-nor-delta-9-THC, which found in the plasma, feces and urine along with other compounds. Very low concentrations of THC may be detected in urine during the initial several hours, but tetrahydrocannabinol persists in urine at a detectable concentration for many days after smoking.
---Onsite Drug Testing
The standard THC test is a one step rapid, qualitative immunoassay for the detection of tetrahydrocannabinol compounds (9-carboxy-THC) in urine. The cutoff concentration recommended by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA/NIDA) for a positive result in an immunoassay test is 50 ng/ml. The cutoff for GC-MS is generally 15 ng/ml.
Although it is widely claimed that THC metabolites can cause a positive urine test for months after use, a more realistic estimate is closer to 3-4 weeks for chronic users. Toxicologist Paul Cary presents a comprehensive overview of recent research in The Marijuana Detection Window [Drug Court Review, Vol 5(1)]. Cary reviews several studies documenting detection windows greater than 30 days, and finds significant confounds or limitations to design in each of them. He concludes:
"Recent scientific literature indicates that it is uncommon for occasional marijuana smokers to test positive for cannabinoids in urine for longer than seven days using standard cutoff concentrations. Following smoking cessation, chronic smokers would not be expected to remain positive for longer than 21 days, even when using the 20 ng/mL cannabinoid cutoff. While longer detection times have been documented in research studies, these prolonged elimination findings represent uncommon occurrences and should not be used as exculpatory evidence in the majority of case adjudications." (pp. 23-4)
Tossa vähän faktaa niistä testeistä
Tossa lisää - >
http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/c ... ting.shtml
Ja siis ainakin kusitesteissä katsotaan vaan onko kusen seassa thc:n hajoamistuotteita, joten olis aikaa vaikeeta kuvitella, että joku muu aine näyttäis positiivisen siinä..
tais ne yhdet pienet savut ottaa. 
. Lauantaina ei aamupäivällä tullut polteltua, mutta illal mentiin kolmen porukalla toiselle mökille missä keskityttiin lähinnä polttelemaan ja oli todella jees meiningit.
